We recently sat down with Ryan Haywood on the DealMachine REI Podcast to break down a real wholesale deal that generated $130,000 in profit. Ryan has closed over 425 wholesale real estate deals in St. Joseph, Missouri since 2019, and he walked us through the exact conversation, the math, and the mindset that made it happen. What follows is what we pulled from that discussion, organized so you can apply it to your own deals.
This is not a theoretical breakdown. It is a real deal, with real numbers, and the specific approach used from the first phone call to the closing table.
Wholesaling is one of the more accessible strategies in real estate investing. You find an off-market or distressed property, get it under contract with the seller, and then assign that contract to a cash buyer for a fee. You never actually purchase the property yourself.
Your profit is the spread between what you locked the property up for and what a buyer is willing to pay. It is a model that works because motivated sellers often prioritize speed and simplicity over top dollar, and cash buyers need a reliable pipeline of deals they cannot find on their own.
The challenge is not understanding the concept. It is executing the conversations well enough to actually get deals under contract.
David Lecko's team sent a postcard to a list of potential sellers. About six months later, the phone rang. That call eventually led to a $130,000 profit.
Six months is a long time, and that timeline carries a real lesson. Sellers often hold onto your information and reach out when they are finally ready to move, not when you send the card. Consistent, patient outreach is what keeps you top of mind when that moment arrives.
Understanding the numbers is just as important as understanding the conversation. Here is how this deal broke down:
|
Deal Component |
Amount |
|
Property Listed / Offered By Seller |
$180,000 owed |
|
Purchase Price (Offer Accepted) |
$160,000 |
|
Seller Cash to Close (Loan + Back Taxes) |
$20,000 |
|
End Buyer Purchase Price |
~$290,000 |
|
Assignment / Wholesale Fee |
~$130,000 |
The seller owed more than the accepted offer, which meant they brought $20,000 to closing to cover the gap. That level of motivation is what makes deals like this possible. When a seller is willing to pay to get out, you know you have a genuinely motivated lead.
David also notes that he built in a 25% margin of safety on the offer. That buffer exists to protect the deal if repair estimates run over, the timeline extends, or anything unexpected comes up. If your numbers only work in a best-case scenario, the deal is fragile.
The first move after picking up the phone is to get the property address. Once you have it, you can pull up ownership history, estimated value, and comparable sales in real time. Tools like DealMachine make this instant, allowing you to have real data guiding your conversation within seconds of answering.
This is not a small detail. It changes how you negotiate. You stop guessing and start asking informed questions.
In this deal, the seller reached out after receiving the postcard and shared that the property needed flooring, kitchen work, and bathroom updates. It was vacant but not finished. That level of transparency is a strong signal of motivation. Sellers who are not serious rarely volunteer the problems.
Ryan's approach was to ask open-ended questions and actually listen to the answers. Understanding why someone wants to sell, what their timeline looks like, and what they owe shapes the entire offer strategy. The goal of the first call is not to make a number. It is to gather enough information to make the right one.
If you want to structure your first seller calls, here is the framework Ryan uses:
That last step is critical. Ryan is firm on this: the goal of the first call is to get in front of the seller. Everything else follows from that.
Instead of asking "when would you like to meet?", give the seller two specific options. Something like, "Can we meet tomorrow afternoon, or would Monday morning work better?" Giving choices keeps the conversation moving and signals that you are organized and ready to move.
Open-ended scheduling questions give sellers room to stall. Two options close that gap and keep things progressing.
Ryan brought up something during our conversation that gets glossed over in most wholesaling content. Sellers do not always go with the highest offer. They go with the person they trust.
When you take time to understand someone's situation, whether they are dealing with back taxes, a difficult co-owner, or a property that has become a burden, you stop being just another offer in a stack. You become the person they feel comfortable handing their property to.
Ryan shared that sellers have told him directly they chose his offer over higher competing ones because they felt he genuinely understood their situation. That is not a sales tactic. It is what happens when you ask real questions and treat the conversation like a human interaction.
Empathy is also practical. When you understand the seller's full picture, you can structure deals in ways that are not always obvious. Sometimes the solution is not just price. It is flexibility on the closing date, helping them understand the process, or simply being easy to communicate with.
In this deal, the seller's willingness to bring $20,000 to closing was a direct result of the trust built throughout the process. They were not just selling a property. They were solving a problem, and they wanted someone they trusted to help them do it.
The $130,000 spread on this deal was not an accident. St. Joseph, Missouri was, and continues to be, a market where off-market properties with significant equity spread exist for investors willing to do the outreach work.
Missouri has historically maintained lower median home values compared to coastal markets, which creates room for meaningful assignment fees when a property is significantly distressed or when a seller is motivated enough to accept below-market pricing. Ryan's track record of 425+ deals in that specific market reflects a deep understanding of local values, buyer appetite, and what makes a deal work in that area. Market knowledge is not optional. It is what allows you to make confident offers quickly.
From pulling property data mid-call to managing your outreach pipeline, DealMachine is built for exactly the kind of work this deal required. The driving for dollars feature, skip tracing tools, and built-in CRM allow investors to find leads, track follow-ups, and move deals forward without juggling multiple platforms.
When David got that postcard call, he had everything he needed at his fingertips to respond quickly and confidently. That preparation is not luck. It is the result of having the right systems in place before the phone rings.